harry reid isn't even at the table and they're having these discussions. but he has a veto for anything that happens. a secret veto. but he's not in the room. the senate got elected, got itself re-elected by not having any votes over the last couple of years. i think if we had c-span, and cnbc cameras in the negotiations, then people could see what the republicans are doing, and the democrats are doing. let's remember what the president's budget is. i bet many of your viewers are unaware, because the establishment press hasn't covered what he's done. he saves a trillion dollars by not occupying iraq and afghanistan for the next ten years. okay. i could save a lot of money by not continuing the war of 1812. but a trillion dollars of the spending cuts are completely phony, because they're from something we already stopped doing. there's another trillion dollars that was agreed to and is in law from the budget control act. he wants to sell you that horse again. he wants to add another savings like that is this trillion. >> although the republicans -- jeb hens